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I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« on: March 31, 2011, 07:10:20 AM »
I got this email yesterday from my webhost:

1&1 is in receipt of a complaint regarding your domain name(s) and/or websites. We are asking that you contact the sender and resolve the matter. Please note that 1&1 Internet reserves the right to suspend service if legal action is threatened.

This is related to the Jason H. stuff that's been happening lately.  He's complaining to my host because he doesn't like that we're talking about him.  This is what he used to do to Heywood all the time.  It seems insane that simply talking about someone is enough to have all my websites taken down.

The easiest thing for me to do would be to take down the episode of The Phone Show that Jason has a problem with and that would be the end of it.  It's tempting to do that just so I don't have to deal with all the work and expense that's involved with moving my sites.  But I'm going to stick this out and try to work things out with my host.  As a result, most of my sites could temporarily disappear soon.

My question is this - what's a good place to host "controversial" websites that people would often complain about and try to have taken down?  Maybe something in another country where they don't fear lawsuits.  I'm sure hosts like that must exist somewhere.

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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 07:56:29 AM »
There's PRQ

http://www.prq.se/?intl=1

I've never used them before though and I don't know what they charge


PRQ was founded in 2004. We are a small player on the Swedish and international hosting market, which was started and is being run by Internet veterans with long experience - most of us have been online for over 10 years. We simply love the Internet and the possibilities provided by it, and our stated goal has always been to help a broad range of companies and individuals publish themselves using it. Our small size means that you always have personal contact with us and that we're very flexible - if our standard packages doesn't fit your needs, we're more than happy to provide you with one that does.

Despite our small size, we have a very good high-capacity backbone network to provide our clients with the highest possible level of service, even during extreme events such as large DDoS attacks. This has been made possible due to careful selection of network equipment and negotiations with upstream providers to provide the best possible pricing on quality bandwidth.

We are firm believers in freedom of speech, commerce, and the right to privacy and anonymity, and this is reflected both in our terms of service and in our actual actions. Unlike most providers, we will not disable your service under any circumstances unless it's either not paid for, used for spamming, DoSing or other activities harming the network, is used for publishing very obviously illegal material like child porn, or if we're ordered to by a Swedish court. We are not sensitive to pressure in the form of legal threats (we even have our own legal staff), bad press, campaigns, organized boycotts, angry mobs, etc. We host several very controversial websites, and have a spotless track record in regard to this.

We do not require knowing your name, address, etc, although it can be advantageous to have them in certain situations (and they are handled very carefully, always stored encrypted, our personnel screened throughly for trustworthiness, and can only be accessed from two dedicated workstations who like the main server also have encrypted harddrives). Neither do we require a written contract. The only thing we need to know about you to set up the service is which e-mail address that should receive the invoices. Logging is only done to the minimal extent required for trouble-shooting in case of problems, and thus we do not have any logs whatsoever of data traffic.

PRQ is operated as a Swedish corporation, PRQ AB. We are a LIR (Local Internet Registry - members of RIPE and thus assigned IP addresses and other Internet resources directly from them). We have our own AS number, 33837.
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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 08:02:02 AM »
I just had a look at some of the "specials" which is the only place I see pricing listed, and it looks expensive.. I'm not seeing anything besides dedicated servers offered

I think its pretty jacked up that your current hosting company is even taking this seriously. Seems pretty ridiculous to me. Maybe try someone like HostGator or BlueHost.. doesn't seem likely to me that most hosts would take this guy seriously, but I guess if there's a history of this dude getting sites shut down, then maybe I'm wrong
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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 08:07:14 AM »
Wow, that host might be perfect for me.  Just $10/month for their smallest package.  I think I might move cactiradio.com to this, along with a new domain just for Jason.

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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 08:38:34 AM »
I've been using the HostGator "baby unlimited" plan for a bit now and no complaints, so far

I've heard BlueHost is maybe better, and I was originally going to use them, but they require a full year's payment up front and I'm a broke ass most of the time

You should be able to use these coupon codes to only pay 1 cent for your first month at HostGator.. That's what I did. There's probably coupon codes freely available via a google search for BlueHost also

HostGator Coupon Code : 1CENTCOUPONCODE
HostGator Coupon Code : 1CENTMONTH
HostGator Coupon Code : 994SAVINGS
HostGator Coupon Code : BLINKGATOR
HostGator Coupon Code : GEEKYGATOR
HostGator Coupon Code : LUCKYSTARS


I don't know if these hosts would have any issues with the slander crap or not, or whatever the dude is claiming
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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2011, 08:47:31 AM »
Back up all your shit on you 1and1 servers, when they shut you down, you gotta pay them for your content back. They're about the worst host ever. Go with PRQ, shit, they host the pirate bay, that's pretty bulletproof.

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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2011, 09:09:23 AM »
Go with the host that Maddox uses. That was immediately my first thought. If nothing else, use whoever it is that hosts 4chan.

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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2011, 09:11:40 AM »
I just ordered the PRQ $10 package and I'm going to move cactiradio.com to that immediately.  I'll see how that goes and if they're a good host, I'll get a larger package and start moving my other domains to them. 

Hopefully their basic web packages will let me manage multiple domains, because their dedicated servers are way too expensive for me.  I've been backing up all my MySQL databases every couple days since this started, just in case they shut me down.

I've been emailing back and forth with my host's legal department today.  The lady I'm talking to is being nice about it all, but still insisting that I remove Jason's name from the TPS page.  So I changed his name to J.H. instead of his full name and she seems happy with that.  What will happen next, though, is that Jason will tell her that's not good enough and that I need to completely remove the episode about him and probably any other episodes containing his name.  Hopefully by the time that happens, cactiradio.com will be on a new host and I'll be in the process of making a hilarious new Jason page, complete with pictures and sound files.

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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2011, 09:13:34 AM »
By the way, keep all the host suggestions coming.  PRQ looks awesome, but they might suck with their speed or downtime and I'll have to move again.  I went through this a few years ago, trying host after host until I finally found 1and1.com. 

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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2011, 09:17:06 AM »
Oh, I didn't realize you were saying PRQ offered a $10/month package.. Is that listed on their website or did you get the info via email? I'm not seeing anything on their website except the dedicated hosting

If its only $10/month, I may move over to PRQ also
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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2011, 09:18:18 AM »
Ahhh nevermind, I see it under the Web/mail/shell hosting header
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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2011, 09:38:43 AM »
The only sucky thing about PRQ is that they don't offer as much space as I'm used to having.  Currently I'm using about 3% of 3 bazillion gigs of hosting that 1&1 gives me, along with unlimited bandwidth.  So I'm going to keep my smaller $20 package with them (I have two accounts with them now), just to host all of my sound files that Jason won't have a problem with.  In the end I'm going to save money.  So thanks, Jason!

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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2011, 09:43:17 AM »
Yeah, I was just looking over the options and the storage space is a deal breaker for me.. I host tons of large sound files and a good amount of space is really a requirement

But that's a good idea to just host files on a different server, if the costs work out
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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2011, 10:58:57 AM »
I've heard nearlyfreespeech.net is good in that they won't fuck around with taking your shit down. I use them, but I don't really have anything that would get complaints. They have pretty good pricing. $1/GB/month for storage and $1/GB for bandwidth and I think there's like $0.50/month in various fees and whatnot. Oh and there's a daily charge for MySQL databases. Here's their pricing estimator: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/estimate

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Re: I need a webhost that won't suspend my service
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2011, 12:42:09 PM »
 I use hostgator for my sites

http://bit.ly/f9z0mM
« Last Edit: March 31, 2011, 12:46:23 PM by Acidpez »

 

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